In Depth & News Letters

In Depth & News Letters



Official Newsletter of the Submariners Association

Patron: Admiral of the Fleet Lord Boyce KG GCB OBE DL

Issue No: 62 | October 2018

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Hello everyone from Barrow-in-Furness!  This year seems to be slipping by very quickly and Trafalgar Day, the Embankment Parade and the Remembrance Day Parades will soon be with us.  This year, of course, Remembrance Sunday is more special than usual with Sunday November 11th being the exact 100th Anniversary of the 1918 Armistice and, as the Chairman says, we hope to see as many of you as possible at the Embankment ceremonies.  If you can’t make it to London you can always support your local Remembrance Parades and Wreath Laying Ceremonies.

I have been able to include all of the regular articles in this issue; however, you will see that a number of the articles included this time are Press Releases sent to me by the Royal Navy Media & Comms team at Faslane which allows us keep up to date with stories from the front line.

I had hoped to include an item about the James Magennis VC Blue Plaque unveiling at the Belfast RNA in September however this will now be included in Issue No 63 in January.

The Association continues to attract new members – both serving and retired.  In the last quarter twenty-five new and re-joining members have joined the Association and all are listed below.  Welcome to you all!

However, unfortunately, in the same period the Association has lost fifteen Members - ‘Crossed the Bar’.  That is fifteen out of a total forty Submariners whose deaths have been recorded in the same period – six of whom were former Submarine Commanding Officers.  All forty names are recorded at the end of this Issue.  We wish them all fair winds and smooth sailing on their final patrols.

For those of you looking for Christmas presents to give this year the Book’s Section this issue recommends nine new titles.  Not all are about submarines or submariners but, all are on a Naval or a Nautical theme.

That’s more enough from me for now!  I’m hope you will find something of interest to read in this issue.  Thanks to everyone who has contributed this time.

Comments and suggestions on content are always welcome - but why not send in your story?  All Submariners have at least one to tell!

Barrie Downer


Issue No. 63 of IN DEPTH is due for publication on 1st January 2019.

Contributions for the next Issue should be with the Editor by 15th December 2018 to ensure your story/article is considered.

Chairman’s Report

I hope you are all well and enjoying the memories of an excellent summer now that the cooler weather is starting to creep in.  Before you know it there will be Christmas trees all over the place.  Oh, what joy!

However, well before that time will be the most important day in our calendar, the day we gather to remember and pay respect to all those who have gone before us, men who earned the reputation we enjoy.  Men who have sacrificed everything in service of our country.

Our annual Service of Remembrance still affectionately referred to as the Embankment Parade will be held once again in the gardens of Middle Temple (Middle Temple Lane, London EC4Y 9AT) which is immediately across the road from the National Submarine War Memorial.  The Service of Remembrance will start at 1030 (muster at 0950) and will be conducted by the Association Honorary Chaplain Paul Jupp.  Paul will be assisted by Rev. Ralph Barber again this year.  Although the actual Service cannot be held in the immediate vicinity of our Memorial for several reasons, all wreaths are placed on the Memorial on completion of the Service.  The wreaths are ‘paraded’ across the Embankment by uniformed personnel and attached to the War Memorial in a dignified manner.  Regular attendees at this important and emotional Service will have witnessed the massive growth in attendance, particularly from the Serving Submarine community.  It is also very pleasing to see representatives of other nations attending and laying their wreaths too.  If you require further information or clarification, please contact the Parade Marshal Iain Mackenzie on:

Many of you may be unaware of similar events which take place on the same weekend but on the Saturday.  I would wholeheartedly recommend attendance if possible.  Timings are as follows:

1000 – Victory Services Club, Carisbrooke Hall, Talk by Lord Hennessey and Dr James Jinks on their excellent book “The Silent Deep”.

1315 – Westminster Abbey - Dedication of the SM Remembrance Garden followed by a service and wreath laying by the Special Forces Memorial in the West Cloisters of Westminster Abbey and concluded with a brief on the Tomb of the Unknown Warrior.

I look forward to seeing you all there at as many events as possible.

Rear Admiral Submarines (RASM) hosted the 2018 Submarine Oscars evening on Saturday 29 September 2018, in the Doubletree by Hilton, Cambridge Street, Glasgow.  This is an all ranks and rates event and is open to all serving submariners and their partners and families, as well as retired submariners and guests.  The purpose of the Oscars is to host an awards ceremony to recognise outstanding performance in a range of Submarine Service team and individual categories.  The general format of the evening was a hosted awards ceremony followed by dinner with live entertainment provided by The British Forces Foundation (BFF).

There were approximately 500 people at this very enjoyable and successful night-out.

Military Vs Cancer held a raffle during the evening and prizes to name, but a few were as follows: Breitling Submarine Service watch, 1827 Pattern Royal Naval Sword kindly donated by Crown Swords England Ltd, Custom made Submariners Woolly Pully Cushion kindly donated by Company of Makers Portsmouth, Black Sails Tattoo voucher - kindly donated by Black Sails Tattoo Studio, Helensburgh, a Spitfire experience.  Tickets for the raffle were available to buy at the event.

It is at this now annual event that the Submariners Association Trophy is awarded.  The recipient of the Submariners Association Trophy is selected by the Instructors and staff of the Submarine School, HMS RALEIGH.  The criteria for the award are not based on academic achievement alone.  The recipient must display and fully embrace the qualities expected not only of a member of the Royal Navy, but also of a potential Submariner.  He or she must show dedication to his/her chosen career path and display the requisite levels of professionalism, drive and outstanding moral fibre.  Attributes such as Courage, Loyalty, Discipline, Integrity, Respect for others, and Selfless Commitment are required.

This year’s recipient is AB WS (TSM) William Broughton who was, unfortunately, unable to attend the event.  I think we used to call this “Life in a blue suit” so we will do all that we can to ensure that he receives his trophy in due course (service commitments permitting!).  In the meantime, our congratulations go to William.

The Submarine Oscars evening is sponsored and run by BFF with the generous support of the Donald Gosling Foundation, Babcock, Thales UK, Veolia, QinetiQ and Rolls Royce.

The role of National Treasurer.

Because of promotion at his place of employment, Nigel Mellor is standing-down from the role of Submariners Association National Treasurer.  Therefore, we are looking for a volunteer to take on the role on a permanent basis.  Any volunteer must be a Full Member of the Submariners Association and nominated by his Branch.  Experience in a similar role would be an advantage but is not essential as a full and comprehensive hand-over will be given to the successful candidate.

The selection process and appointment will be managed by the National Management Committee.  The appointment will initially be for a period of 5 years - subject to ratification at the next following National Council Annual Conference.  Anyone interested in this role and wishes to volunteer should send their name to the National Secretary.  Clause 9 (n) (i)(ii)(iii)(iv) of the Association Rules and Constitution refers to this role.  Terms of Reference are available on request.

Nominations deadline.

I would take this opportunity to remind you all that any nominations for places on the National Management Committee or changes/amendments to our Rules and Constitution should be presented to the National Secretary, Ian Vickers, in writing no later than 31st December.  This is your opportunity to step forward and make a difference.  There are always two vacancies on the NMC each year.  The only qualification is that you must be a Full Member of the Association.  Similarly, if you think that our R & C needs updating or changing then put your ideas in writing and get them to the national Secretary no later than 31st December.

I look forward to seeing you all in November at the Embankment.  In the meantime, remember that we are all getting on a bit in years and we need to take care during the colder months.  We are a ‘dying breed’ but let that be through natural process and not hastened by our own thoughtlessness.  Take care of yourselves and each other.

Keep on Keeping on.


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Rear Admiral Niall SR Kilgour CB

Jim McMaster
1, Blantyre Court
Bargarran, Erskine
Renfrewshire PA8 6BN
0141 571 4094
J. McMaster Esq

Vice Chairman:

Iain. MacKenzie Esq.
46 Almora Drive
G82 1AE
I. MacKenzie Esq

National Secretary:
Ian Vickers Esq
160 Bradshaw Meadows
Lancashire BL2 4ND
01204 308539
I. Vickers Esq

Nigel Mellor Esq
17 Wyke Way
Shropshire TF11 8SF
07427 159476
N. Mellor Esq

Membership Secretary:
David Woolterton Esq.
2 Thornton Close
SO24 9FE
01962 734940 or 07713448734
D. Woolterton Esq

Barrie Downer Esq
37, James Watt Terrace
Barrow in Furness
LA14 2TS
01229 820963
B. Downer Esq

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