In Depth & News Letters

In Depth & News Letters



Official Newsletter of the Submariners Association

Patron: Admiral of the Fleet Lord Boyce KG GCB OBE DL

Issue No: 66 | September 2019

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Cover Photo: The Re-dedication of the Australian Submarine Memorial, Barrow in Furness on Saturday 14th September.


Hello again to everyone from wet and windy Barrow! Still waiting to the ‘Indian Summer’ to arrive! Nearly all the CASD50 events are now complete and we seem to have moved into a busy period of Memorials and Remembrances Members of the Association seem to have been very busy of late with the latest ‘Blue Plaque’ – this one for Commander Miers VC. Also in Helensburgh there is now the new ‘K13 Plinth’ in Colquhoun Square. In Faslane we now have the ‘AB Read’ Statue re-sited from its former home in RALEIGH and in Australia the ‘Periscope Memorial’ in Fremantle has had a bit of a facelift. In Barrow the ‘Australian Submarine Memorial’ in Ramsden Square has been rededicated following the recent (December 2017) location of the long-lost HMAS AE1.

It is good to know that so many members of the Association put so much of their time and effort into remembering our heritage.

In France the recent discovery of the wreck of the lost Submarine MINERVE has brought some closure the 52 families of the crew – see article on Page 24). Some of you probably remember the series of unexplained Submarine losses of the late 1960s of which MINERVE was one - in 1968.

News also of the RN Team which, in assisting with the search for the ARA SAN JUAN is also helping to restore Anglo/Argentine relations. Another help here will be the soon to be expected transfer of financial donations from We Remember Submariners and other Donors direct to the families of the 44 Crew.

As we now move into the latter part of the year, hopefully there will be a Trafalgar Dinner somewhere in your area - I know of at least three. Then there will be the Embankment & National Remembrance Ceremonies and your own local Parades – please support them.

Finally, I must thank all those who have sent in items for this Newsletter – it makes my job so much easier!
Barrie Downer


Issue No. 67 will be published on 1st January 2020. Contributions are required to be with the Editor by 15th December 2019 – please make sure I get them in time!

Chairman’s Report

Friends and Fellow Submariners, I hope you are all well and enjoying the memories of an excellent summer now that the cooler weather is starting to creep in. Before you know it, Christmas will be upon us!

However, well before that time will be the most important day in our calendar, the day we gather to remember and pay respect to all those who have gone before us, men who earned the reputation we enjoy. Men who have sacrificed everything in service of our country.

Our annual Service of Remembrance still affectionately referred to as the Embankment Parade will be held once again in the gardens of Middle Temple (Middle Temple Lane, London EC4Y 9AT) which is immediately across the road from the National Submarine War Memorial. The Service of Remembrance on Sunday 3rd November will start at 1030 (muster at 0950) and will be conducted by the Association Honorary Chaplain Rev. Paul Jupp. Paul will be assisted this year by Rev Dr. Mark Davidson (Chaplain to Faslane Flotilla).

Although the actual Service cannot be held in the immediate vicinity of our Memorial for reasons we are all aware of, all wreaths are placed on the Memorial on completion of the Service. The wreaths are ‘paraded’ across the Embankment by a platoon of veterans and uniformed personnel and attached to the War Memorial in a dignified manner. Regular attendees at this important and emotional Service will have witnessed the massive growth in attendance, particularly from the Serving Submarine community. It is also very pleasing to see representatives of other nations attending and laying their wreaths too. If you require further information or clarification, please contact the Parade Marshal Iain Mackenzie on:

Many of you may be unaware of similar and related events which take place on the same weekend but on the Saturday. I would wholeheartedly recommend attendance if possible. Timings are as follows:
1000 – Victory Services Club, Carisbrooke Hall, Talk by Lord Hennessey and Dr James Jinks on their excellent book “The Silent Deep”.< br/> 1315 – Westminster Abbey - Dedication of the SM Remembrance Garden followed by a service and wreath laying by the Special Forces Memorial in the West Cloisters of Westminster Abbey and concluded with a brief on the Tomb of the Unknown Warrior.

Veterans are welcome to attend both of these events. I look forward to seeing you all there at as many events as possible.

All of you must know by now that 2019 has been the year of CASD50 – 50 years of continuous uninterrupted deterrent patrols. There have been a number of high-profile events to celebrate this momentous achievement including a Thanksgiving Service in Westminster Abbey early in May. There was also a Ceremonial Divisions held in HM Naval base Clyde which experienced an unprecedented turn-out for such an event! Princess Anne took the salute on the day and, on completion of divisions she unveiled the statue of Leading Seaman Read, which is located the newly dedicate Memorial gardens outside of the Super Mess. This statue was previously located outside the Submarine School in HMS RALEIGH.

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Our latest Blue Plaque was unveiled on Saturday 14th September in Inverness. The Plaque, dedicated to Commander Anthony Miers VC DSO*, is situated at the entrance to Inverness Cemetery where Commander Miers is buried. Sandy Powell’s full report on this event is on Pages 10 & 13.

On Wednesday 18th September I had the privilege and honour to unveil the latest exhibit to occupy a plinth in the Helensburgh open-air museum situated in Colquhoun Square in the town. The exhibit is intended as a link for the local residents, naval personnel and visitors with the town’s history, in particular the Submarine K13 accident of 1917. This is not meant as a monument to this incident, the Monuments for the K13 are in the Faslane Cemetery where those who died are buried. There is also a Monument in Elder Park Govan and in Carlingford, New South Wales.

The West of Scotland branch were responsible for the project, the design, fund raising and negotiating with the local council. A small team of four members worked enthusiastically to bring this about and they were Bob Seaward, Paul Jupp, John Webster and Gerry McFeely. All showed great commitment and the finished article is a credit to them. Look out for this when you are next in Helensburgh. A full report with photographs is on Pages 8 and 9.

I would take this opportunity to remind you all that any nominations for places on the National Management Committee or changes/amendments to our Rules and Constitution should be presented to the National Secretary Ian Vickers, in writing no later than 31st December. This is your opportunity to step forward and make a difference. There are always two vacancies on the NMC each year. The only qualification is that you must be a Full Member of the Association. Similarly, if you think that our R & C needs updating or changing then put your ideas in writing and get them to the National Secretary no later than 31st December.

One last thing before I go, I know that you will all want to join me in wishing Fiona and David Barlow every happiness as they embark on a new phase of their lives. They are emigrating to Australia on Tuesday 1st October to be with their family. Our best wishes go to them.

In the meantime, keep warm and keep on keeping on.
Jim McMaster


This Newsletter is published by the Submariners Association and is © 2019. The opinions expressed in these pages are not necessarily the opinion of the Editor, The Submariners Association, the MoD or the Submarine Service unless otherwise stated. The Submariners Association may not agree with the opinions expressed in this Newsletter but encourages publication as a matter of interest. Nothing printed may be construed as policy or an official announcement unless so stated. Otherwise the Submariners Association accepts no liability on any issue in this Newsletter.

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Rear Admiral Niall SR Kilgour CB

Jim McMaster
1, Blantyre Court
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Renfrewshire PA8 6BN
0141 571 4094
J. McMaster Esq

Vice Chairman:

Iain. MacKenzie Esq.
46 Almora Drive
G82 1AE
I. MacKenzie Esq

National Secretary:
Ian Vickers Esq
160 Bradshaw Meadows
Lancashire BL2 4ND
01204 308539
I. Vickers Esq

Stuart Brown Esq
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07590 195295
S. Brown Esq

Membership Secretary:
David Woolterton Esq.
2 Thornton Close
SO24 9FE
01962 734940 or 07713448734
D. Woolterton Esq

Barrie Downer Esq
The Firs, Dundalk Street
Barrow Island
Barrow in Furness
LA14 2RZ
01229 820963
B. Downer Esq

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